F-16, Boeing and F-35 on the table as Trump hosts Erdogan at the White House Sept. 25

By Sihle

A reset is back on the table. President Donald Trump will welcome Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to the White House on Sept. 25, with both leaders signaling they want more than handshakes and photos. They want deliverables: fighter jets, commercial planes, and a path—however narrow—out of a defense dispute that has haunted U.S.-Turkey ties since 2019.

Trump, who often spotlights personal chemistry with foreign leaders, framed the meeting as a chance to close “large scale” deals and turn the page. Erdogan, for his part, cast the moment in broader terms, saying progress with Washington could ease regional tensions and widen trade and investment.

What’s on the table: jets, sanctions and trade

The headline items are familiar but high-stakes. First, the F-16 package. Ankara has been seeking dozens of new Viper jets and a large tranche of upgrade kits to extend the life of its aging fleet. That deal would refresh Turkey’s airpower at a time when the region is volatile and Russian-made systems sit on Turkish soil, complicating everything.

Second, Boeing aircraft. Turkey’s commercial carriers have been weighing fleet plans for years, and officials in Ankara have talked up a “large scale” Boeing purchase—think single-aisle workhorses for domestic routes and long-haul widebodies for hubs in Istanbul and Antalya. Expect offsets and industrial participation to be part of the conversation; Turkish aerospace firms want a bigger slice of global supply chains.

And then there’s the elephant in the room: the F-35. Turkey helped build parts of the jet, invested heavily, and planned to buy around 100 aircraft before Washington froze it out in 2019 over the S-400 air defense system acquired from Russia. U.S. officials argued the Russian radar could expose secrets of the stealth fighter. Ankara rejected that, proposed a technical commission, and has since sought compensation for payments it made into the program.

Reviving any F-35 path will require more than warm rhetoric. The sticking point remains the S-400. U.S. law (including CAATSA sanctions on Turkey’s defense procurement agency) and Pentagon security rules leave little wiggle room unless the Russian system is removed, mothballed under verifiable conditions, or transferred out of Turkey—options Ankara has long resisted. If there’s movement, it will likely be incremental: quiet technical talks, confidence-building steps, and a limited roadmap rather than an instant return.

Even an F-16 breakthrough isn’t automatic. Arms sales face formal congressional review under the Arms Export Control Act. That means the State Department can sign off, but Capitol Hill still has a say. In recent years, key lawmakers have attached conditions tied to NATO cohesion, airspace disputes over the Aegean, and human rights concerns. If the White House wants speed, it will need to line up votes and blunt any committee holds.

Beyond jets, trade is a big piece. Bilateral commerce has hovered around the $30 billion mark in recent years, according to U.S. trade data, and both capitals talk about lifting that number. Expect discussion of customs bottlenecks, digital trade rules, and investment in energy, logistics, and aviation services. Turkey’s defense industry—now exporting drones, armored vehicles, and electronics—will push for co-production and tech transfer where it can get it.

Deliverables to watch next week: a joint statement that names the F-16 package and Boeing purchases; a signal on S-400 handling; language on a claims mechanism for Turkey’s sunk F-35 costs; and a pledge to set up working groups on export controls and industrial cooperation. If letters of offer and acceptance (LOAs) for F-16s or a Boeing purchase order appear soon after, that’s your sign talks didn’t just go well—they landed.

Fault lines: Gaza, Syria and NATO politics

Fault lines: Gaza, Syria and NATO politics

The agenda doesn’t stop at hardware. U.S.-Turkey differences have widened on Gaza. Ankara has condemned Israel’s campaign as genocide and pressed for international steps against the Israeli government. Erdogan has also denounced Trump’s floated idea of relocating Palestinians from Gaza and placing the territory under U.S. control—remarks he dismissed as dangerous and unacceptable. That clash of views will color the visit, even if both sides try to firewall it from defense deals.

Then there’s Syria. The U.S. partners with Kurdish-led forces against ISIS. Turkey sees the main militia in that coalition as an arm of the PKK, which it fights at home and across its borders. This disagreement has sparked operational friction and periodic Turkish strikes near U.S. positions. Washington will push for deconfliction and guardrails; Ankara will press for deeper action against what it calls terrorist networks. Neither side expects a grand bargain, but both need rules of the road to avoid accidents.

Inside NATO, the story is mixed. Turkey backed Sweden’s entry after a long, bruising process and has been active in Black Sea grain shipments and NATO missions from the Baltics to the Balkans. Yet disputes over airspace with Greece, maritime claims in the Eastern Mediterranean, and defense procurement from Russia have strained alliance cohesion. The White House will argue that modernizing Turkey’s fleet keeps NATO’s southern flank credible, while critics will warn against rewarding bad behavior. Those two narratives will collide as the F-16 debate heats up.

Domestic politics shadow the talks on both sides. In Turkey, inflation and currency pressures have made foreign investment more valuable, and a steady pipeline of aerospace and defense work would help. In Washington, any big-ticket sale to Ankara will be judged against wider regional policy and Congress’s appetite for risk. The choreography matters: a clear sequence—confidence steps on the S-400, guardrails in Syria, concrete progress on alliance priorities—makes the case easier to sell.

There’s also the legal thicket from the past few years: CAATSA penalties on Turkey’s defense procurement agency, the prior expulsion from the F-35 supply chain, and unresolved financial claims. One pragmatic option both sides have discussed in the past is carving out a financial settlement for Turkey’s F-35 payments while ring-fencing sensitive technology. That won’t restore the partnership overnight, but it could lower the temperature and unlock cooperation elsewhere.

What would success look like on Sept. 25? A green light for the F-16 package with a timeline for deliveries and upgrades; a Boeing agreement with clear industrial participation for Turkish firms; a structured channel to manage the S-400 problem; and a plan to deconflict in Syria. Add in a working group on Gaza humanitarian access and reconstruction, and you’d have a package that blends hard security with diplomatic ballast.

What would failure look like? Vague promises with no dates, no letters of offer, no movement on the S-400, and sharp public barbs over Gaza that drown out the rest. The personal rapport Trump and Erdogan often stress can keep the lines open, but it can’t substitute for concrete steps.

The stakes are obvious. Turkey sits at the hinge of Europe and the Middle East, hosts key NATO assets, and controls air corridors and sea lanes that matter to U.S. planners. For Ankara, access to Western aircraft, parts, and software shapes its airpower for the next two decades. For Washington, keeping a tough ally inside the tent—without compromising security rules—remains the core challenge.

So the White House meeting isn’t just another bilateral. It’s a test of whether two leaders who say they can make deals can actually push through the hardest one on their docket—and whether the broader relationship can move from crisis management to a workable, if imperfect, normal.

20 Comments

  1. christian lassen
    christian lassen

    so like... f-16s? really? i thought we were done with this whole jet thing after the s-400 mess. but hey, if trump and erdogan can high-five over it, maybe it’ll happen. 🤷‍♂️

  2. Jack Fiore
    Jack Fiore

    The F-35 issue isn’t just about the S-400. It’s about interoperability, data sovereignty, and the fundamental incompatibility of Russian sensor architecture with NATO’s encrypted link protocols. Any compromise here opens a backdoor that could be exploited by state actors or insider threats. This isn’t negotiation-it’s strategic erosion.

  3. Antony Delagarza
    Antony Delagarza

    they’re gonna sell us out. mark my words. this whole f-16 deal? it’s a distraction. the real plan is to hand over the f-35 blueprints to turkey so they can reverse engineer them and sell to russia. that’s why the pentagon’s quiet. they’re already compromised.

  4. Murray Hill
    Murray Hill

    you know, people talk about jets and deals like they’re just machines. but these things? they’re about trust. turkey’s been on both sides of the fence for years. maybe we need to give them space to find their own way. not every alliance has to be perfect to be useful.

  5. Bruce Wallwin
    Bruce Wallwin

    F-16s? Boeing? Please. We’re giving away our tech to a country that buys Russian missiles and calls NATO allies terrorists. This isn’t diplomacy. It’s surrender with a press release.

  6. Letetia Mullenix
    Letetia Mullenix

    i just hope whoever’s in charge remembers that people on the ground in syria and gaza aren’t just political chess pieces. real lives are caught in this. hope they don’t forget that.

  7. Morgan Skinner
    Morgan Skinner

    Let’s not pretend this is just about jets. This is about whether we still believe in alliances built on shared values-or if we’re just shopping for deals with anyone who says nice things at a photo op. Turkey’s got strategic value, yes. But so does our integrity. Which one are we trading?

  8. Rachel Marr
    Rachel Marr

    i think there’s room here for progress-even small steps. if they can agree on a working group for syria deconfliction or even just a timeline for the f-16s, that’s something. sometimes peace starts with a single signed document, not a grand gesture.

  9. Kasey Lexenstar
    Kasey Lexenstar

    Oh, so now we’re rewarding bad behavior because someone smiles in a suit? Brilliant. Let’s just give them the F-35 too while we’re at it. Maybe they’ll throw in a free S-400 upgrade with purchase.

  10. Trevor Mahoney
    Trevor Mahoney

    you ever wonder why the f-35 program was suspended? it wasn’t just the s-400. it was the fact that turkey had been feeding intel to russian operatives through their defense contractors for years. the pentagon knew. they just didn’t say anything. now they’re pretending this is about radar compatibility. it’s not. it’s about cover-up.

  11. Jitendra Patil
    Jitendra Patil

    usa thinks it owns the world. turkey has its own defense industry now. we built drones that beat nato jets in syria. why should we beg for your old f-16s? you sold us out first with the s-400 sanctions. now you want us to beg? no. we’ll buy chinese, russian, or make our own. your jets are outdated anyway.

  12. Michelle Kaltenberg
    Michelle Kaltenberg

    I find it profoundly disturbing that the United States, a nation founded on principles of liberty and rule of law, would consider normalizing military cooperation with a regime that has imprisoned journalists, dismantled democratic institutions, and weaponized its own judiciary. This is not diplomacy. It is moral capitulation dressed in the language of ‘deal-making.’

  13. Jared Ferreira
    Jared Ferreira

    i’m not saying yes or no to the jets. but if they set up a real working group on syria-actual coordination, not just talk-that could prevent someone getting killed next week. that’s worth a shot.

  14. Kurt Simonsen
    Kurt Simonsen

    this is why we’re doomed. 😔🤡 every time we try to be nice, they stab us in the back. s-400 → f-35 kicked out → now we give them f-16s? next they’ll be flying them over gaza. 🤡

  15. Shelby Mitchell
    Shelby Mitchell

    f-16s or not, the real story is how long we’ve been stuck in this loop. same issues. same people. same silence on the ground. just more paperwork.

  16. mona panda
    mona panda

    why are we even talking about this? turkey’s not our ally. they’re a rival with nato membership. give them the jets and watch them use them against kurds. again. it’s predictable.

  17. Evangeline Ronson
    Evangeline Ronson

    It’s easy to condemn Turkey’s actions, but we’ve made our own compromises-arming regimes, ignoring human rights for oil, silencing dissent for stability. Maybe this isn’t about Turkey’s morality. Maybe it’s about whether we still have the courage to hold ourselves to the same standard we demand of others.

  18. Cate Shaner
    Cate Shaner

    The S-400 isn't the problem-it's the C4ISR architecture mismatch. Turkey’s integration of Russian tactical data links into their NATO-compatible command nodes creates a latent attack surface that violates NATO’s STANAG 5516 baseline. This isn't politics. It's cyber-kinetic risk management.

  19. Thomas Capriola
    Thomas Capriola

    You’re all missing the point. This isn’t about jets. It’s about control. The U.S. wants Turkey to stay dependent. Give them the F-16s? Fine. But never the software. Never the maintenance keys. That’s the real deal.

  20. Rachael Blandin de Chalain
    Rachael Blandin de Chalain

    While the diplomatic optics of this meeting may appear favorable, one must not overlook the enduring legal and institutional constraints imposed by the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. Any deviation from the prescribed course would necessitate a formal waiver, which, absent a compelling national security justification, is unlikely to gain bipartisan support.

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